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Dumbass Quote Of The Day…

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…from the St. Rita’s Nursing Home trial, where the owners are accused of 35 counts of negligent homicide for refusing to evacuate the nursing home in the path of Hurricane Katrina.

A Dr. Brobson Lutz, identified as an expert in internal medicine and public health, and a paid expert witness for the defense, provides the money quote, in the Lake Charles American Press:


“If you evacuate, somebody is going to die,” Lutz said. You’re dealing with a frail, elderly population.”

The large percentage of “special needs” patients at St. Rita’s – those in need of extra medical attention – would have been even more at risk, Lutz said.


This proves one thing: even a doctor will whore himself out to say ludicrous things in court if the money is right. In Dr. Lutz’ case, his personal thirty pieces of silver added up to $5,000 in expert witness fees.

Apparently, abandoning your self-respect and your common sense comes pretty cheaply these days.

The patients who weren’t bedbound could have been evacuated in buses or wheelchair transport vans. The most frail patients, the bedbound ones, could have gone by ambulance with an EMT in attendance.

And trust me, there were ambulances available at the time.

You can bet that in the months prior to Katrina, they weren’t all that concerned with transporting bedridden patients to the Emergency Department on the flimsiest of medical pretenses. It happens all the time from nursing homes.

So why were they so afraid to evacuate them ahead of a freaking hurricane?

Answer: money. Always is.

  • Hammer

    People will do the stupidest things to save a little money.

  • Hammer

    People will do the stupidest things to save a little money.

  • Scott

    Far too many (<>ONE is too many<>) people are killed, maimed, or denied quality of life care because some greedy, heartless bastard likes to stamp his big rubber “<>DENIED<>” stamp on papers.May every pencil pushin’ <>petaQ<> who kills for the bottom line rot in <>Grethor<>!

  • Nurse K

    Just wondering….if an entire city’s nursing home population was to be re-located, where would they go? As it is now, at least here, there are no open nursing home beds until someone croaks.

  • Nurse K

    Just wondering….if an entire city’s nursing home population was to be re-located, where would they go? As it is now, at least here, there are no open nursing home beds until someone croaks.

  • Ambulance Driver

    …”if an entire city’s nursing home population was to be re-located, where would they go?”Good question, and one I don’t have an answer to. Baton Rouge had enough accomodations at Pete Maravich Assembly Center and Tiger Stadium to house hundreds of them, at least for a few days. Where I worked, in north Louisiana, the nursing homes in our parish started immediately shuffling people around, putting on temporary staff, even taking some old wings out of mothballs. One nursing home even reopened its former location to handle the influx of patients. 24 hours after the levees broke, we had 100 available beds in just our parish.

  • Ambulance Driver

    …”if an entire city’s nursing home population was to be re-located, where would they go?”Good question, and one I don’t have an answer to. Baton Rouge had enough accomodations at Pete Maravich Assembly Center and Tiger Stadium to house hundreds of them, at least for a few days. Where I worked, in north Louisiana, the nursing homes in our parish started immediately shuffling people around, putting on temporary staff, even taking some old wings out of mothballs. One nursing home even reopened its former location to handle the influx of patients. 24 hours after the levees broke, we had 100 available beds in just our parish.

  • Divemedic

    When I was evacuating a nursing home (post hurricane Charlie) in August of 2004, we were hauling them out as fast as we could. There was no power in the home, and water was pouring in the roof.On one trip, I took 7 patients. One (the least disabled) sat up from with my EMT partner. The most disabled was on the stretcher, 3 on the bench seat, one on the action seat, and one in the captain’s chair.I stood for the 40 minute/15 mile ride to the receiving facility. I kept track of vitals by putting a piece of 2 inch tape on the gown of each patient, and writing vitals on it.Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Not one of the patients died, and a wheel chair van aided by 5 ambulances evacuated a 100 bed home in less than an hour.

  • Divemedic

    When I was evacuating a nursing home (post hurricane Charlie) in August of 2004, we were hauling them out as fast as we could. There was no power in the home, and water was pouring in the roof.On one trip, I took 7 patients. One (the least disabled) sat up from with my EMT partner. The most disabled was on the stretcher, 3 on the bench seat, one on the action seat, and one in the captain’s chair.I stood for the 40 minute/15 mile ride to the receiving facility. I kept track of vitals by putting a piece of 2 inch tape on the gown of each patient, and writing vitals on it.Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Not one of the patients died, and a wheel chair van aided by 5 ambulances evacuated a 100 bed home in less than an hour.

  • Wyatt Earp

    Despicable. Utterly despicable.

  • Wyatt Earp

    Despicable. Utterly despicable.

  • Babs RN

    What an idiot. If you <>don’t <>evacuate, people will die. Hopefully that little piece of testimony got ripped to shreds on the stand.I was working in Macon, GA (168 miles inland from Savannah) when Floyd threatened and they had that traffic jam of an evacuation from the GA/FL coastlines (the one that spurred the DOT to make some adjustments to I-16 to better accommodate the next round of evacs). We took on a number of patients from the Savannah hospitals and the Coliseum itself served as a public shelter and housed those with special needs, but it was and is the responsibility of the individual nursing homes to have previous arrangements for transfer (including transport) in case of emergency as part of their disaster plan. And you know what? Evacuating didn’t kill anybody.Current plan < HREF="http://www.landings.org/document/cema_hurricane_plan.pdf?16643" REL="nofollow">here<>, hasn’t changed much in the past few years and is well worth reviewing by those with less of a clue as to how to appropriately manage the population needing assistance with evacuations. It’s solid, it does <>not<> allow for passing the buck, and it works. Just takes teamwork and a common focus to get it done. We haven’t been hit in a long, long time but we take every single one very seriously. I think most of us are of the mind that the next one to hit Savannah (and I’m about 70 miles inland from most portions of the GA coastline) will make up for lost time. And we’re not taking any chances. I’m always ready to bail too.Because prior proper planning prevents piss-poor performance. And BS like Dr. Lutz.

  • Babs RN

    allow for passing the buck, and it works. Just takes teamwork and a common focus to get it done. We haven’t been hit in a long, long time but we take every single one very seriously. I think most of us are of the mind that the next one to hit Savannah (and I’m about 70 miles inland from most portions of the GA coastline) will make up for lost time. And we’re not taking any chances. I’m always ready to bail too.Because prior proper planning prevents piss-poor performance. And BS like Dr. Lutz.

  • ERnursey

    if you evacuate someone will die?If you don’t evacuate they all will die, bean counting asshole.

  • ERnursey

    if you evacuate someone will die?If you don’t evacuate they all will die, bean counting asshole.

  • Anonymous

    I hate to say it, but he’s got a point. NH patients do tend to be fragile, and if you move enough of ‘em, SOMEBODY will die. Simple statistics. That being said, given what I’ve read about the St Rita’s fiasco, the owners and administrators are guilty as sin and deserve the death penalty. Furthermore, I can’t understand how a man who has taken the Hippocratic Oath can bring himself to help defend these bastards–isn’t there something in there about “hold myself aloof from wrong and corruption”?

  • Anonymous

    I hate to say it, but he’s got a point. NH patients do tend to be fragile, and if you move enough of ‘em, SOMEBODY will die. Simple statistics. That being said, given what I’ve read about the St Rita’s fiasco, the owners and administrators are guilty as sin and deserve the death penalty. Furthermore, I can’t understand how a man who has taken the Hippocratic Oath can bring himself to help defend these bastards–isn’t there something in there about “hold myself aloof from wrong and corruption”?

  • Cybrludite

    As far as I’m concerned, the owners should get the death penalty because what they did was premeditated murder. Pity we can’t execute them by slowly drowning them in the dark, like they did to the people entrusted to their care.

  • Cybrludite

    As far as I’m concerned, the owners should get the death penalty because what they did was premeditated murder. Pity we can’t execute them by slowly drowning them in the dark, like they did to the people entrusted to their care.

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t the point that if someone dies during evacuation before the disaster strikes, the care owners get sued, especially if the risk from which patient removed does not materialize. Nota bene: am not agreeing with the bean counter, the residents should have been evacuated, as should the hospital. j

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t the point that if someone dies during evacuation before the disaster strikes, the care owners get sued, especially if the risk from which patient removed does not materialize. Nota bene: am not agreeing with the bean counter, the residents should have been evacuated, as should the hospital. j

  • Cybrludite

    Except there was no question that the risk was real in this case. I remember the mayor of Chalmette saying on the radio that if people did not leave, then his police wouldn’t have enough body-bags. In fact had the storm not jogged a bit east at the last moment, it wouldn’t have mattered if the levees had held or not.

  • Cybrludite

    Except there was no question that the risk was real in this case. I remember the mayor of Chalmette saying on the radio that if people did not leave, then his police wouldn’t have enough body-bags. In fact had the storm not jogged a bit east at the last moment, it wouldn’t have mattered if the levees had held or not.

  • phlegmfatale

    Ah, the money. Tsk.

  • phlegmfatale

    Ah, the money. Tsk.

  • Gary

    Somehow this will all end up being George Bush’s fault. ’cause everything bad is.

  • Gary

    Somehow this will all end up being George Bush’s fault. ’cause everything bad is.

  • Anonymous

    A coroner I know was telling me about a nursing home he went into post hurricaine. Everyone died, but before the staff died they wrapped the patients up in their bedlinins like a shroud and enclosed their charts. He said it made it easy to ID the bodies and he often thought about the love and dedication the staff must have had to do that one last thing for the people in their care.

  • Anonymous

    A coroner I know was telling me about a nursing home he went into post hurricaine. Everyone died, but before the staff died they wrapped the patients up in their bedlinins like a shroud and enclosed their charts. He said it made it easy to ID the bodies and he often thought about the love and dedication the staff must have had to do that one last thing for the people in their care.

  • Judy

    On the plus side, the above mentioned MD whore isn’t treating patients while he’s in court.That’s got to be a good thing if he thinks “somebody will die” is better than “everybody did die”No judgment – none at all. Better he should whore himself where it’s pretty damn obvious than go commit malpractice.

  • Judy

    On the plus side, the above mentioned MD whore isn’t treating patients while he’s in court.That’s got to be a good thing if he thinks “somebody will die” is better than “everybody did die”No judgment – none at all. Better he should whore himself where it’s pretty damn obvious than go commit malpractice.


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